At http://phys.org/print388832074.html … a DNA analysis of living and extinct species of New Zealand wrens have upset geological theories as it has been claimed New Zealand was completely submerged around 21 to 25 million years ago. It is thought the various species are only distantly related and ancestry may go back prior to 25 million years ago. This is using a uniformitarian time scale of geology and a uniformitarian time scale of evolutionary change. In an expanding universe theory I suppose New Zealand would never have been submerged – but not having looked at the geology of that particular country cannot really comment. So, what is wrong – the DNA assessment, or the geology?